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IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Mon 05, 2019 8:13 pm

So I figured while I was waiting to complete the sherlock cover I would have a look for the next one. I had a look through the requests again but none of them really jumped out at me. So I ended looking through artwork that was available and found a poster for it chapter 2 that i really liked, dont get me wrong I wasnt really a fan of the remake as i liked the original but figured I'd give it a shot.

As always feel free to chip in with any suggestions

i have just added the artwork and title so far but here is what i have so far:

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby chouette » Aug Mon 05, 2019 9:16 pm

Yep not much, lol - But you are correct, that image is very nice! Have you ever thought of doing covers for TV Series?

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Mon 05, 2019 9:27 pm

chouette wrote:Have you ever thought of doing covers for TV Series?


i love doing covers for tv shows, in fact i am currently doing one...for sherlock  ;)

i have added the cast names, changed the title to make it a little clearer and added some text (to be fair, it looked much better in my head), i am not too sure if i'll keep the text at the moment but maybe someone who is good with fonts/text could tell me where i am going wrong as i believe it should work.

here's the updated cover:

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby chouette » Aug Mon 05, 2019 9:49 pm

Ah yes true, you are working on Sherlock. Forgot about this one, lol

Your title treatment looks better. Cast names looks good also. The tagline, not so much. I can't help you with the fonts but you might want to put less space between each lines? And maybe not as many words on each lines? Hope I make sense.

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Tue 06, 2019 8:44 am

chouette wrote:The tagline, not so much. I can't help you with the fonts but you might want to put less space between each lines? And maybe not as many words on each lines? Hope I make sense.


you do make sense. the way i had it in my head was about three lines roughly in order to fill the balloon but will come back to that later. i have tried something else for now, not 100% about the wording or look as it is but i will keep thinking as i work through the rest.

i have added a spine (might add some images to it later) and added the legals and small image on the back. its starting to come together now.

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby ctaulbee » Aug Tue 06, 2019 9:52 am

That's better, could move the title to the left and make it a little bigger. :)
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby wysmommy » Aug Tue 06, 2019 11:04 am

That clown is creepy. lol. Your cover is looking very nice so far. Can't wait to see what you do next.  :D
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby chouette » Aug Tue 06, 2019 1:02 pm

Yes, much better. I don't think you really need more writing in front. Just my opinion of course. Love what you have done with the back so far!
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby sauron » Aug Tue 06, 2019 7:01 pm

ctaulbee wrote:That's better, could move the title to the left and make it a little bigger. :)


My thoughts exactly :) you could also reduce the size of the text at the top and increase the tracking?
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Tue 06, 2019 8:21 pm

sauron wrote:My thoughts exactly :) you could also reduce the size of the text at the top and increase the tracking?


i have changed the size and positioning of the title, just struggling a little with the back at the moment but it will be on the next update.

whats tracking?
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby ctaulbee » Aug Tue 06, 2019 8:32 pm

Tracking is a fixed space between all characters (typically), kerning is variable space between two characters.

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Tracking

A   B   C   D


Kerning

A  B    C  D


There are times like in Titles where two characters might need more or less space between them than others, in which case you use kerning to adjust that, but most times you just want to evenly space all characters and for that you use tracking.

Note: Tracking can be set for the entire text block, or by paragraph, or by line, or by word, or by characters, but usually tracking is used for the entire text block.
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Tue 06, 2019 8:57 pm

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby ctaulbee » Aug Tue 06, 2019 9:30 pm

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Tue 06, 2019 10:01 pm

perfect. thanks. i had no idea what it was called.

so is kerning still using that button but just between two characters?
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby ctaulbee » Aug Tue 06, 2019 10:32 pm

Not exactly.

Kerning Is Selective Letterspacing (font function or should be)

Kerning is the adjustment of space between pairs of letters. Some pairs of letters create awkward spaces. Kerning adds or subtracts space between letters to create visually appealing and readable text. Kerning information for many commonly kerned character pairs is built into most quality fonts.

Tracking Is Overall Letterspacing

Tracking differs from kerning in that tracking is the adjustment of space for groups of letters and entire blocks of text. Use tracking to change the overall appearance and readability of the text, making it more open and airy or denser.


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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby topmeasure » Aug Wed 07, 2019 2:21 am

Great explanation CT.
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Wed 07, 2019 9:28 am

i have edited the the title size and amended the the top text on the front cover. i have also added screenshots and tweaked the legal text a little.

i am quite happy with the cover as it is here (possibly other than the wording of "terrifying novel" on the front):



heres where it gets a little tricky...i then did a little more for the back, i added a banner and image on the back. i found out last night that the movie isnt even in the cinemas yet so having a banner for special features is probably not going to work and the remaining text might be a little difficult until the movie is released but possibly doable.

the main problem i am having is that i wanted to do something a bit different on the back (i havent got something specific in mind), i just didnt want to go down the same route i usually go so it might take me a little while to come up with something. if anyone has a take on how they would go about it id love to hear it.

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby chouette » Aug Wed 07, 2019 2:35 pm

First of all, thank you CT for explaining the difference between Kerning and Tracking. If someone can do it, it’s you. I’ve used Tracking quite a bit (like Nick, not knowing that is was called that, lol) but I’ve never used Kerning because I didn’t really know what it did. Now that I do, I will use it.

Now for your cover Nick, I like your new updates. The banner would certainly add something nice at the back, so if you want to keep it, you might want to add a quote of a movie critic from a known publisher or something like it inside instead of special features. Just an idea. Keep going, it’s coming along very nicely!
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby sauron » Aug Wed 07, 2019 2:54 pm

Looking good! Maybe you could change the stills so they’re inside the balloons?

From some of the posters, it looks like there’s some smoke so you could add some to the back?
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Wed 07, 2019 8:22 pm

chouette wrote:you might want to add a quote of a movie critic from a known publisher or something like it inside instead of special features


unfortunately there isnt any of them either yet. the only critic quote i have seen was from japan and it was more of a preview of where the second one might go and i didnt want to read too much to avoid spoilers. but it was definitely worth a shot.

sauron wrote:Maybe you could change the stills so they’re inside the balloons?


i had that idea too, originally i did look into it but i couldnt get it to work as i couldnt get the balloons close enough to match the others. not sure about the smoke, it would definitely have worked if i had used one of the posters that had the smoke but not sure it would work with the one i chose.

thank you to both of you.

i had a little play around with it and to try and make up for the lack of info i added some more screenshots and the tagline. now if i can get a critic quote (or maybe two) it might be enough to fill the back. i also went with a different image and tweaked the legals colour so it wasnt so overpowering.

i think it might work a little better this way but let me know what you think:

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby chouette » Aug Wed 07, 2019 9:18 pm

I'm not sure about the extra images on top. It might be too much no? May I suggest a longer synopsis to compliment the void? I found this one if interested:

"The sequel to 2017's adaptation of the Stephen King thriller sees the Losers' Club grown into adulthood. For many of them, the horror of their encounter with Pennywise the Clown is a half-buried childhood memory. But Pennywise still lurks beneath the town of Derry, and he's beginning to stir again. Inevitably, the Losers are drawn back to Derry to face the terror of their childhoods and, perhaps, put an end to Pennywise entirely ... if they can survive a second meeting with him."

I'm sure there are other synopsis out there that are better or that you would prefer. Now obviously, the one you have now is great if you can find something else to fill in the void. Again, just a suggestion. Like you, it looks fine in my head with a longer synopsis, but who knows, lol
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Wed 07, 2019 9:41 pm

chouette wrote:I'm not sure about the extra images on top.


to be honest i wasnt feeling it either. the problem i had was that i wasnt really feeling the image going all the way to the top (wanted it a little smaller) but it has a flat finish otherwise i would have just left a gap but i will see what i can do.

and i will most definitely use that synopsis you found, the one i had was the longest i could find. thank you.
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Wed 07, 2019 10:14 pm

here it is with the longer synopsis and larger image:

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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby ctaulbee » Aug Wed 07, 2019 10:20 pm

Not too keen on the back image, lot of negative space behind him.
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Re: IT Chapter 2

Postby Nickaberdeen » Aug Wed 07, 2019 10:31 pm

ctaulbee wrote:Not too keen on the back image, lot of negative space behind him.


did you prefer the first one i tried or do you think i should look for something else?
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